Βασικὰ μαθήματα ἑλληνιστικῆς - Basic lessons in hellenistic

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Σχετικῶς μὲ τὸν τρόπο ὑπολογισμοῦ ἐνὸς ὡροσκοπίου.

Ὑπάρχει μία πολὺ σημαντικὴ διαφορὰ κατὰ τὴν κατάστρωση ὡροσκοπίου: τὸ ἐν χρήσει σύστημα τῶν Τόπων.

Σήμερα ἔχουμε συνηθίσει νὰ χρησιμοποιοῦμε τὴν λέξι ΟΙΚΟΣ ὅταν χωρίζουμε τὸν ζῳδιακὸ σὲ μέρη ποὺ ἀντιστοιχοῦν σὲ τομεῖς τῆς ζωῆς. Ὅμως αὐτὸ εἶναι μία παραφθορὰ ποὺ προέκυψε κατὰ τὴν πρώιμη περίοδο τῆς ἰσλαμικῆς ἀστρολογίας καὶ ποὺ συνεχίσθη ἀπὸ τοὺς μεσαιωνικοὺς ἀστρολόγους. ΟΙΚΟΣ στὴν ἑλληνιστικὴ ἀστρολογία ὀνομάζεται κάποιο ζῴδιο ἀναφορικῶς μὲ τὸν κυβερνοῦντα πλανήτη του, π.χ. ὁ Κριὸς εἶναι ὁ Οἶκος τοῦ Ἄρεως, ὁ Ταῦρος ὁ Οἶκος τῆς Ἀφροδίτης, οἱ Δίδυμοι ὁ Οἶκος τοῦ Ἑρμοῦ κ.ο.κ.

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Ἡ ὀρθή ἔννοια εἶναι ΤΟΠΟΣ, ποὺ στὰ ἑλληνικὰ σημαίνει ὄχι μόνον 'χώρος' ἀλλὰ καὶ 'θέμα' (ἐξ' οὖ καὶ ἡ ἀγγλικὴ λέξι topic). Σὲ δώδεκα τόπους / θέματα μοιράζεται ὁ ἀνθρώπινος βίος ἀστρολογικῶς. Τὸ σύστημα τοῦ Δωδεκατόπου ἐσχηματίσθη πάνω στὴν θεμελιώδη ἔννοια τῆς μοίρας καὶ κυρίως στὶς διαφορετικὲς της ἐκδηλώσεις στοὺς τομεῖς τοῦ ἀνθρωπίνου βίου.

Οἱ ἑλληνιστικοὶ ἀστρολόγοι χρησιμοποιοῦσαν μόνον τὸ σύστημα τῶν ὁλοκλήρων ζῳδίων, κατὰ τὴν κατάστρωση τοῦ Ὡροσκοπίου. Δηλαδὴ ὅπου εὑρίσκεται ὁ Ὡροσκόπος (π.χ. 23μοῖρες Ζυγοῦ), τότε ἀπὸ τὴν ἀρχή τοῦ ζῳδίου αὐτοῦ ἐκτείνεται ὁ πρῶτος Τόπος (π.χ. 0 - 30 μοῖρες Ζυγοῦ --> 1ος Τόπος), τὸ ἐπόμενο ζῳδίο εἶναι ὁ δεύτερος Τόπος κ.ο.κ. Μὲ αὐτὸ τὸ σύστημα τῶν ὁλοκλήρων ζῳδίων ὁ κάθε Τόπος / τομέας τῆς ζωῆς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἔχει ἴσο μῆκος μὲ τοὺς ἄλλους καὶ περιέχει 30 πλῆρεις μοῖρες ἕκαστος.

Αὐτὸ εἶναι περισσότερο ὀρθὸ ἐν σχέσει μὲ τὰ διάφορα συστήματα ποὺ προέκυψαν ἀργότερα. Γιατὶ; Διότι μὲ τὰ ἄλλα συστήματα, (Placidus, Campanus, Regiomontanus, Koch) ὄχι μόνον οἱ Τόποι εἶναι ἄνισοι ἀλλὰ καὶ σὲ περισσότερο βόρεια πλάτη ἀρκετοὶ Τόποι 'στριμώχνωνται' σὲ μικρὸ διάστημα μοιρῶν ἐνῶ ἄλλοι ἀπλώνονται ὑπερβολικῶς. Καὶ αὐτὸ δὲν ἔχει καμμία λογικὴ ἀφοῦ ὁ πρωταρχικὸς λόγος δημιουργίας τοῦ Δωδεκατόπου εἶναι νὰ διερευνήσουμε τομεῖς τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης ζωῆς ὁπότε καὶ πρέπει νὰ ἐκτείνονται ὅλοι ὁμοιογενῶς καὶ ἀνεξαρτῆτως ἀπὸ τὴν γεωγραφικὸ πλᾶτος τῆς κατοικίας ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου. Καὶ ὄχι νὰ συρρικνώνονται ἢ νὰ ἀπλώνονται ἀνομοίως, ὡσᾶν νὰ ὑπονοεῖτο ὅτι ἀναλόγως τὴν εὐρύτερη γεωγραφικὴ ζώνη, θεμελιώδεις τομεῖς τοῦ ἀνθρώπινου βίου συρρικνώνονται καὶ δὲν ἔχουν ἰδιαίτερη δύναμι ἐκφράσεως ἐνῶ ἄλλοι διογκώνονται δυσαναλόγως, κι ὅτι αὐτὸ μᾶλιστα ἰσχύει γιὰ ὅλους ἀνεξαιρέτως τοὺς κατοίκους τῆς ζώνης ἐκείνης.

Τὸ ἄν κάποιοι τομεῖς εἶναι περισσότερο ἐνεργοὶ ἢ ὄχι, αὐτὸ προσδιορίζεται σὲ ἀτομικὸ ἐπίπεδο ἀπὸ τὶς θέσεις τῶν πλανητῶν στὸν ἰδιαίτερο χάρτη ἑκάστου ἀνθρώπου, τὴν δύναμη ἢ άδυναμία τῶν πλανητῶν αὐτῶν καὶ τὶς μεταξὺ των ὄψεις.

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On the calculation method of a horoscope

There is a very important difference during the calculation of a Horoscope: which division system is used.

Today we have the habit to use the word HOUSE when we divide the zodiac in parts that correspond to areas of human life. However this is a mistake coming from the early period of islamic astrology, which passed on to the medieval astrologers. HOUSE in hellenistic astrology is called a zoidion (=zodiac sign) in relation with its ruling planet, e.g. Aries is the House of Mars, Taurus is the House of Venus, Gemini is the House of Mercury etc.

THE TOPICAL DIVISION: DODECATOPOS

The correct term is TOPOS, which in hellenic means not only 'place' but also 'theme' (hence the english word topic). In twelve places/themes the human life is astrologically distributed. The system of Dodecatopos was formed on the fundamental concept of fate and especially on its various manifestations in the areas of human life.

Hellenistic astrologers used only the system of whole signs, during the calculation of a Horoscope. In whichever sign the Ascendand falls (e.g. 23 degrees Libra), then from the beginning of this sign extends the 1st Topos (e.g. 0 - 30 degrees Libra --> 1st Topos), the next sign is the second Topos and so on. This system of whole signs ensures that each Topos / area of human life is equally sized and each contains a full 30 degrees.

This is more correct in comparison with the various systems that were later invented. Why? Because in all the other systems (Placidus, Campanus, Regiomontanus, Koch) not only the Topoi are unequal but in more northern latitudes many Topoi are 'sqeezed' in a small space while others spread too much. And this is illogicals since the principal reason behind the Dodecatopos is to investigate into areas of human life so they must all extend equally and independently of the geographical latitude of someone's location. And not shrink or extend unequally as if it is implied that according to the geographical zone fundamental areas of human life shrink and have no special power of expression while others extend disproportionally, and that thing regardlessly applies to all the inhabitants of the zone.

Whether some areas of life are more active or not is defined individually from the planetary positions in someone's horoscope, from the power or weakness of those planets and from the aspects between them.

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Περαιτέρῳ δεῖτε:

Ο ΔΩΔΕΚΑΤΟΠΟΣ
http://www.astrologicon.org/elliniki-astrologia-eidikeimena/o-dodekatopos-a-meros.html
http://www.astrologicon.org/elliniki-astrologia-eidikeimena/o-dodekatopos-b-meros.html

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Further reading:

Facets of Fate.zip

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Οἱ Μοῖρες στὴν Μυθολογία - The Fates in Mythology

THE MOIRAI (or Moirae) are the goddesses of fate who personify the inescapable destiny of man. They assing to every person his or her fate or share in the scheme of things. Their name means "Parts." "Shares" or "Alottted Portions." Zeus Moiragetes, the god of fate, is their leader.

http://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Moirai.html